Another coyote that chewed out of a snare

[Coyotehunter]

good point

[Prairie Ghost]

huntin nd- It was 3/32 7x7 cable with a cam lock that was all that was left around the neck so i don't know anymore than that as far as the equipment they were using. I did notice that there was not "chains" carved in the cam lock

[coyotelatrans]

That is why I feel unless people know what they are doing with snares or have read alot on their useage they shouldn't use them until they have it down! 3/32nd cable in 7x7 is not good cable for coyotes IMO. A snare cuts off blood circulation , they don't choke them! That big of cable is slower at cutting off circulation and 7x7 isn't very chew resistant to coyotes. Even a cam lock on 3/32nd can back off some, I prefer 5/64th 1x19 filed and kill springs and I also use 1/16th with good results. A good anchor is key as well we don't need coyotes running around with snares and keeping trapping/snaring in a good light with the public.

Snares are a great tool but one that can get alot of bad PR when people don't use them properly ! A snare is far different than a cable restraint device! The snare is designed to kill the target animal when used properly a cable restraint is designed to keep the animal alive. THe CR guys use alot of 3/32nd ion both 7x7 and 1x19 as it just doesn't shut off the blood supply on a thick necked fall/winter coyote like other cable types do! Summer coyotes go down much quicker in a snare and a guy can get away with more on those thinned skinned summer coyotes.

If your going to use snares read up on them or find a good snareman and ride along for a day or two and see how he/she does it!

[Coyotehunter]

If you neck catch them, with good entanglement you will choke them out. If you hip catch them, yep it can cut off the circulation. thousands and thousands of coyotes have been fence and trail snared with 3/32 cable. Because of chew outs lots of guys still use 3/32 on there fence snares. Visibility, snare diameter is the main reason for going to thinner cable. 1x19 holds a better loop and is more chew resistant than 7x7 of the same diameter but with out good entanglement you are going to have problems no matter what size or type cable you use.

[coyotelatrans]

[LeviM]

Nice Catches,

thanks for the pics

[Prairie Ghost]

Coyotelatrans I think you make a good point in that people need to do a little research before they do anything in life but i don't think there is nearly the things to learn with snaring thats why it is so great for guys just getting into trapping/snaring ect. You need to find a good pinch point and have some knowledge about how high how big of a loop but it will at least get you going. I think most of the guys starting out just buy manufactured snares to begin with for a season or two and then start making them.

I use a similar snare to you but have certainly killed them with 3/32 7x7 also.

Great Pics thanks for sharing. Certainly looks like your getting some fur

Coyotehunter well said.

[coyotelatrans]

The point with the pictures is this you can snare coyotes out in the open with great results, but you need more than cable and a lock to do it with a low% of chew outs! I run less than 3% yearly on chew outs on a 3 day check, I find very few coyotes alive in snares in the open. The key is a good aggressive lock! I like a filed cam lock and a good kill spring the stinger or it's clone from Ardell Grawe! With these additions and proper cable you get a fast and effective killing system even out in the open as the top pics show! 1x19 as we can all agree is far better for chewing than 7x7 and I have found 5/64ths to be darn good for taking down coyotes in a hurry, and also I use 1/16th in even more open areas with good results, the majority of the issues with this setup some when you think you have cover and the coyote wraps up but the cover is wimpy acts like a shock absorber and won't allow the coyote to compress the kill spring that is when they sit and chew for me. Open terrain and 15ft total cable length lays the high majority out flat!

Summer coyote much easier thinner skinned and heat equals a much quicker death. Fence crawls unders I use all 5/64ths on kill complaints because the fence it self can act like that shock absorber I was talking about! 5/64th's 1x19 is about equal in chewing to 1/8 7x7. Use what works best in your situation but a tighter wound cable 1x19 is tougher for the coyote to separate strands than the much easier 7x7, I learned that years ago with coon.

Loop diameter isn't near as important IMO as loop height, in fact many think I use too big of a loop, but as long as the bottom hits that coyote below the chin your going to have neck snared coyotes, I like a wide loop and to achieve that with 1x19 I need a larger loop I want to keep the lock and kill spring above their line of sight and I want to give them a nice secure opening side to side, I have found less refusals this way than a narrow hanging snare loop.

I had a guy come along one day and he thought my you make big loops you must hip snare a lot of coyotes? I said no becuase I worry where the bottom of the loop is and that is the main factor, after checking a handful of snares I came up to 1 5/64th 1x19 not loaded snare and there lay a dead jack rabbit neck caught he looked at it and the light went off for him.

Snaring is a great tool and can be easier to do for many, cheaper faster and more cost effective but it is also a tool that many use haphazardly and reading a good snare book or two and getting the basics down will cut down those coyote who run around with cable attached or worse dogs! a solid well anchored snare and a solid snare support will cut down alot on miss caught coyotes.

Good luck and good snaring!

[Coyotehunter]

I think we are on the same page. you can go to the trapping thread and you will see lots of snared coyotes. I run 75 lb choke springs, cam locks, 8' 3/32 7x7 tail, #9 swivel, and 4' 1x19 5/64. I always anchor at the fence post on fence snares. trail snares I worry more about the entanglement and adding extensions to get him over to something to wrap himself up on. No entanglement, then not a good place to snare. I do use some kill poles for areas were they can get up above my vertical entanglement, such as a go down on a draw with high banks. I do not have many chew outs but it does happen. If a coyote decides he is going to chew out sometimes there is just no stopping him.

[coyotelatrans]

Yep! I used to use the 50lb and 75lb coil spring type kill springs but the stingers and clone from Ardell grawe takes way more cable out when the coyote pulls than do the coil springs that bottom out after a little cable is moved. Your moving up to 1" of a little more with the stinger type versus less than 1/2" with a coil spring type before it bottoms out and can't go further, that is the big differance I have seen between the 2 when snaring more open areas. Marty S came out with a great new improvment in kill springs when he made the stinger for sure! Not to mention the stinger types are reusable many more times than the coils that get all distorted and bent out of shape after 1-2 catches.

I agree some coyotes you can't do much about but I have found give them the freedom of 15 ft total length even on the level and that stinger type spring makes a big differance between layed out dead coyotes and finding a higher% of chewed cable.

[Prairie Ghost]

Coyotelatrans what state are you working in? IS the three day check the state law or just what you run your line in?

Some coyotes are just chewers and they are just going to have to be killed using something else most of the time but there is certainly things that you can do to help bring that number down.