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Fox calling

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:12 pm
by jaybic
Just curious,

When specifically targeting fox, how do any of you adjust your setup/calling other than not howling? Is there anything that you do different to target a fox as opposed to coyotes?

Thanks again,

Jaybic

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:38 pm
by LeviM
just more light higher pitch sounds

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:14 pm
by lyonch
tryo to focus on smaller prey sounds. The lip squeak i think is more deadly on fox than a coyote.

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:00 pm
by Prairie Ghost
Some areas location of stands changes. If there is a lot of coyotes around the fox tend to stick closer to the farms, ranches and roads becasue the coyotes won't allow them out in the good stuff. Not to say there isn't fox out in the breaks or big pastures but i would call the farm country, shelter belts and closer to the people if there is a lot of coyotes around.

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:00 pm
by bucksnbears
not real sure of praire ghost's reply. i went out last wed. at 2;00pm till dark and saw 9 fox and 3 coyotes. i seen several fox sleeping in the same field as coyotes. i've yet to see a coyote chase a fox though i believe they may be hell on pup's at the den. calling fox years ago used to be a cake walk. last ten years things have changed although i don't know why??. early 90's it was not uncommon to go out in winter and see 30- 40 a day and shoot 7-8. best day was 54 seen and 9 shot. recently as in the last 5-6 years it's been hard to see 5 a day. maybe mange maybe coyotes not sure but i do dearly miss red fox!!!!

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:21 pm
by Tim Anderson
Like others stated, stay with the higher pitch sounds and if coyotes are around set up along a fence line, tree line or edge of creek. Give the fox a little cover to come in on and when they come they will stop about 100 yds out most of the time and sit down and just look..
I to have seen coyotes and fox in the same sections and also had a coyote kill one of my fox that i had in a trap.. Reason for decline: Mange, distemper,coyotes and over harvesting..A fox has about 1 square mile of terr. and come breeding season they willbe laying next to a hole. Hunters just keep comeing back till they get them...

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:28 am
by Prairie Ghost
bucksnbears: Sounds like the fox still have the run of the area (9 fox seen and 3 Coyotes). Coyotes are tough on fox certain times of the year are worse. Just pay attention to where the fox dens are in march and april the reason most people see them is because they need to be closer to the people due the coyotes ( a foxs habitats come into play also).

I agree with TA on why you fox numbers are down seen it in eastern ND real bad.

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:06 pm
by Mountainman
I agree. I have seen far less foxes than in prior years. I concentrate in areas that have a lot of pheasants and use a high pitch chicken cluck, or a mouse squeak. Not many chicken farms around here, but tons of pheasants.

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:16 pm
by Dcoy
Mouse sqeaking for me.To this day,I have a loud sqeaker mounted on every scope.
TA really hit the main causes.Many don't believe it but hunters can damn near eradicate fox-unlike coyotes.Especially if they hunt dens in March and in open farm country.

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:53 am
by wizbang
Mountainman wrote:I... use a high pitch chicken cluck... tons of pheasants.
Chicken cluck... Any special way to make that sound?? Special call or is there a way to make the sound on a regular open-reed call?
Any other calls that can come close to pheasant vocals??

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:44 pm
by lyonch
I chicken cluck to me sounds much like a bird chirp if you use the frequncy a baby chick makes. Other wise go to a farmer who has chickens and ask him if you can listen to the sounds they make.

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:41 pm
by Tbush
Lyonch are you NOT the man who knows all about chicken's....how they dance..... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:44 pm
by LeviM
Tbush wrote:Lyonch are you NOT the man who knows all about chicken's....how they dance..... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
LMFAO :lol: If they dance like two very white boys, then we got it figured out :wink:

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:16 pm
by wizbang
lyonch wrote:I chicken cluck to me sounds much like a bird chirp if you use the frequncy a baby chick makes. Other wise go to a farmer who has chickens and ask him if you can listen to the sounds they make.
So do you just get way out on the tip of the reed then or what??

Re: Fox calling

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:59 pm
by Tim Anderson
I had a custom call made for me that does bird distress, You need to ....OVERBLOW the bird call.....deliberately....try to stick it....then with back pressure you can make all the squawks an squeals..
I can do small bird distress, pheasant,chicken., ect. A closed JC reed coaxer you can do the same thing..