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What is this track from?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:35 am
by Fallguy
My uncle took this cast of a track a few years ago on a prairie road by his farm. Sorry if the pictures aren't the best. And I don't have the exact measurements of the print.

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The "L" made by my hand has the following dimensions:

From the crook in the "L" it is 5 inches to to top of my index finger. From the same point it is 3 inches to the end of my thumb.

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:16 am
by Prairie Ghost
Could be a long tail but it is tough to tell with the pics

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:20 pm
by Coyotehunter
I tell you what, it looks like a bear track to me, front pad maybe. What part of the state?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:28 pm
by Fallguy
It was found between Heaton and Cathay, ND. If you don't know where that is it is in the Central part of ND, about 20 miles west of Carrington.

I know it isn't the best picture. When I was back there for deer hunting I quick snapped a photo of it on the way out.

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:12 pm
by Prairie Ghost
Is there claws visible infront of the toes?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:28 pm
by Fallguy
I looked at that. I know that if it's a cat there will be no claw marks seen. I couldn't make any out from what I saw. I am not sure what he used to make the cast or if it is the right stuff to use. I am however going back there over Christmas and I will look at it again, get some measurements, take some better pictures, and look at the claw situation.

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:15 pm
by Coyotehunter
I see Bear tracks all the time around my place. You do not always see claw marks with bear tracks. It just depends on how soft of mud you have. I have bears right behind the house and I can find tracks almost any day of the week. The more I look at the casting it looks like a bear track. Across the front pad anything over 5" would be considered a big bear. 3.5" - 4.5" would be a typical size bear maybe 150lb to about 250 lb. When I lived in Buxton North Dakota there was a bear spotted several times just East of town. I have a friend who lived up by Bottineu, ND and he had pics of a couple of bears that the locals farmers had given him.

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:47 pm
by Fallguy
I will have to give my uncle a call one of these nights and see if he has heard of any bear sightings around the time he made the cast. I never expected someone to say it could belong to a bear!

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:36 am
by Fallguy
I talked to my uncle last night. The track was found in soft mud a few years ago. The reason he took the cast of it was he was suprised as there were NO claw marks to be found at all.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:13 am
by Coyotehunter
Well, I sent your pictures off to a biologist, Sue Mansfield that I know that is suppose to be an expert on tracks and sign. I will let you know what I find out.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:33 am
by Fallguy
I will pretty dumb if it turns out to be a big dog or something.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:24 am
by Coyotehunter
Hi Jamie -

This looks like a cougar track to me. A bear's palm pad is large in comparison to its toe pads, and the toes form a nice arc over the palm pad. A bear's palm pad is also asymmetrical -- with the wider part being towards the outside. The slightly tear-drop shape of the toe pads in your track picture is also cat-like.

Below is a set of bear tracks frozen in ice -- the front left is the top one, rear left is the lower one. Notice the kidney-shaped palm pad on the front foot -- with the narrow part towards the inside. The small inner toe did not register so it appears to have only 4 toes -- same for the rear track. Notice the gentle arc formed by the toes over the pad.


Hope this helps.

Sue


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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:24 am
by Fallguy
That's pretty sweet. Thanks for looking into that Jamie.

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:38 am
by Coyotehunter
you bet, it is cool figuring that stuff out.