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Electronic calls are the way to go in windy conditions.

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:16 pm
by Jerry Hunsley
The comments that I'm about to make are merely my own observation but I truly believe when the wind is really getting with it , the electronic calls shine and are no comparison to open reed calls. In those windy conditions you have to get the sound out there and the W T caller does the job with plenty of volume. No comparison to the other electronics. A good friend of mind who will remain anonymous and myself got up and left the house at 3:oo am and the plan was to locate as many coyotes and dens as possible. Then we would simply come back later and use the dog on the dens and kill some coyotes. We located about 5 or 6 families before it got light. The wind was blowing 30+mph and with the W T and using Howls we got numerous responses. I know for a fact if I had been using my howler or any other howler we would have not had the responses that we did simply because the coyotes could not hear the howls. You have to throw a lot of howls out there and have a sharp ear. We were able to get one adult male but on a good day we will get the other adults. We got too close to a couple of dens , in fact I walked right up on one and a pup was just layint there and then quickly went down the hole. The other guy walked up on two more pups and they took off. They are fairly big right now and will be able to make it on their own if we take out the adults. I am not a big fan of electronic calls , but on a given day and windy conditions , your success will greatly improve. Somthing to think about for you tournament competitors. As you know most of the time when there is a tournament the conditions are bad. I also think that when using a E C you can have it turned up too loud and it will work against you especially on much calmer days. That is where the open reed calls shine. I won't be getting an E C as I still like using open reed calls. It is much more gratifying when you get a coyote coming to you call. If I was and ADC man , I would definately be using electronics. You would get pretty tired of blowing open reed calls day after day in your work. Some of you might have a different opinion but thats fine too!!!

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:16 pm
by Tim Anderson
Glad to hear you are out and about jerry. Don't forget to leave a few of those coyotes for me. :mrgreen:
I believe you are correct, the E.C. are very helpful on those windy days and youre howlers work well also but you have to cheat a little and call down wind...

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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:32 am
by Coyotehunter
I personally don't carry one much on stand anymore. Just one more thing to carry along. Pretty much I carry a mouth call, gun, binoculars and a range finder. Oh yea and a dog or two. I do own a foxpro XR6 and a Johnny stewart 512 with a amp (super loud). I just don't spend much time calling in the wind now a days. Lots of oppurtunities to call and I pick and choose my days more now. I do use the foxpro to locate coyotes. I hook it up to the PA system on my truck with the group yip howl and have tremdous luck with that. I will have to say though that I agree with Jerry 100% that the power of a loud EC is hard to beat in the wind. I do not feel the Foxpro has near the volume as my JS 512 and on windy days years ago the 512 called in coyotes from distances that was astounding. In Western North Dakota at times you get to see them coming from way off.

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:18 am
by LeviM
Last winter we used the fox pro to locate coyote during a full moon, and I was more than impressed worked like a charm. Since I got it late in the year we didn't get much time to use it in the field. I personally perfer to use a hand call, but on windy days I can see where it will come in handy also late in the year when the coyotes have heard every distress call in the books.

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:59 am
by Prairie Ghost
I've used a foxpro since they came out but still prefer a hand call. In the wind i agree because when its windy i let it play a lot longer than normal to give them every oppurtunity to hear it.

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:10 am
by lyonch
I think a lot of people forget that even though it is windy out, there are breaks in the wind, and your sound gets out there farther than you think. I dont know of a hand call that can outperform a mechanical speaker for sound volume and keep a good sound. The foxpro is something that i hope levi and i can experiment with a little more since we have some sounds that i feel late season could help us.

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:28 pm
by Tbush
I have one of the first models of fox pro and its all I've used for four years other than a howler or lip sqeeks, my son has a new fx model and my old one is almost twice as loud, you just have to know how to use the volume control :wink: Thinking about going back to a hand call, I used to get soooo worked up when i'd see a yote that the next time I'd blew the mouth call weird sounds came out of it so I went to the FP,one thing I have found is if I'm holding the FP in my hands I can throw the soud to direct targeted areas like behind me 8) I think it throws the yotes locating senses off a bit as I've had them come running past me like they're looking way past me kinda like useing a remote but I can move the sound around (make sense)?? anyways love it on windy days too!!

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:59 pm
by RandyRoede
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Here's the pic. of the one we got that day, yep I'm the mystery man, Jerry and his wife Paula are friends of mine and i do take Jerry on a ride along every once and a while, he has to sign a release ,no cameras of any kind and sworn to never tell anyone what he see's or hears!!!!!!! LOL One of the few guys I would trust enough to take out. Beyond the steers in the background of the photo about a half a mile is a flock of sheep. These coyotes are denned up less than a half mile from them. We never did get to that other group west of the sheep about a mile in that big cattail lake bottom Jerry!! Jerry is still recovering from the cold that morning, he dressed a little to light.

The WT or whatever you like ecaller is only as helpful as the guy operating it. Locating in any wind with whatever you have reduces responces dramatically. True calm nites will locate coyotes you never new existed. Playing the right vocalizations from the right spot at a certain time of year with years of year round calling in these areas increases all the odds in my favor. For 6 and a half years I have hunted nonstop, you know if any are present where they will answer from, what location, and sound they respond better to and why. At least in my mind as I am not a coyote.

I too do not use the WT all the time, not going to carry anything more than a rifle and a call, why my Wiley One Howler of course, occasinally rangefinding binos, rarely though, need to do that more. Tournaments we hunt long hauls and the WT isn't always the ticket, leaving a truck at first light and not gettin into a truck until dark will make you want to travel lite.

You can make mouth calls work in high winds, if you have your coyotes located, you can usually approach much closer under the cover of the wind along with understanding where the coyotes will be when it is that windy in that country. So that you will be within hearing distance of the coyotes. Calling without any scouting, in high wind, well hope your populations are high, you will be in for a long day here.

The other major advantage E Callers have is the location of the sound away from the shooter and the fact that most have to be setting up to call making a person more visible to the coyote and any movement. You can get away with alot more stuff laying prone away from the caller. We hunted in bare pastures, just 6 to 12 inch grass, pretty tough to hide one in let alone two, good camo is a must.

Bottomline is Mouth Calls or E callers are just tools like a hammer and a saw just because you own them doesn't make you a carpender, or just because you lived in the White House does mean you are qualified to be president!!!

I'll let Jerry chime in here, not that he needs my permission, most of the time if indeed they answered locating it was from where I expected , the random spots we stopped to locate from were not random but spots that produce responces. It's not a 100 percent but it sure makes your odds alot better of seeing coyotes on the stand. Experience in the country 12 months out of the year.

A guy with hunting instincts and the ability to comprehend what he sees and hears in the field is light years ahead of the pack. An ecaller to him means something way different than it does to others. There is just way more to it than most will ever know.

By the way, never play Hunsley for money in golf!!! If he is still this good at 62 I can only imagine what he was when he was younger. How he ever got such a pretty and nice wife I'll never know!!!LOL Jerry your always welcome in my truck!!!

Oh almost forgot Jerry's one and only Wiley One Pro Staff Member!!!!!!!!

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:03 pm
by Tim Anderson
Randy: Good post and lots of good info...

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:20 am
by lyonch
Jerry is a great guy to get to know. I had the opportunity of meeting him last january at the classic. It sounds like when Jerry and Randy team up those coyotes better look the hell out :D Great post Randy there is alot of info in that post that i hope some take to heart cause its so truthful. Keep wackin em and stackin em boys :wink:

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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:58 pm
by Coyotehunter
Great Post!!

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:05 pm
by Prairie Ghost
Real good post Randy and a lot of truth to what you said. It's quite a difference hunting the same area 12 months out of the year a guy really learns where the coyotes like to be.