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Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:52 am
by Daryl
No kiddin TA. I am glad Randy didn't charge me but it would have been worth it. I have been around alot of electronic callers but the WT is SWEET

. I had to have one. They are alittle bulky but at 3.7lbs not all that heavy.
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:25 pm
by Coyotehunter
Tim Anderson wrote:Most of you guys proably don't have a WT. so you don't know but Bill has two pup distress sounds and one adult distress. The pup distress is 8 month and 10 month of age and both sound different..
at 8-10 months they are no longer pups, they are coyotes.
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:43 pm
by devildogg
I'm just a little slow or i missed something what is a TA and a WT. this is driving me nuts
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:14 pm
by Daryl
devildogg I will give you WT 101 at the Balta hunt

Oh and a TA is Tim Anderson

Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:57 pm
by Tbush
ahww come on tell him

Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:40 pm
by Daryl
Terry I want ol devildogg to think about it for awhile. He will be in Balta then I will tell him about my new secret weapon

. I had know idea what it was either but glad I know about it now they rock

Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:09 pm
by Coyotehunter
I will guarantee you that the coyote does not know the difference.
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:16 pm
by LeviM

Any insight

Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:47 pm
by Dcoy
Wildlife Tech electronic.The question is,oldmodel?New Model?Or,Real new model-the half price one?
Don't spend $800-think about $400.
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:48 pm
by LeviM
I see, so what the story on them? what makes them better than the rest of the electronic callers?
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:53 pm
by Tim Anderson
Tim Anderson wrote:
Most of you guys proably don't have a WT. so you don't know but Bill has two pup distress sounds and one adult distress. The pup distress is 8 month and 10 month of age and both sound different..
I don't have my sound list here so i went from memorie. What i should of typed was Bill has the following pup distress sounds::: 3 weeks
10 weeks
8 weeks distress with growls
8 month
As i understand it a dog or coyote is a pup or yoy untill they reach one year of age...
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:58 pm
by lyonch
Personally i would have to say that a pup is somwhere in the neighborhood of birth till about 3-4 months old then they become young of the year until about january. After January in my opinion you shot a coyote. Thats just the way i look at it.
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:05 pm
by Tim Anderson
The WT. is louder and more clearer than other brands. The recordings are of actual animals and not some sound produced and recorded by a hand call. Not everyone is a ace with a hand call so the next best thing is a WT. But there are also sounds on an electric call that a handcaller can't produce.. Its just another tool that does a good job of bringing them in and is louder than a hand call..
If coyotes are located 90% of the time you may get by with a hand call, but if you don't locate or want to cover some ground the WT is the way to do it.. quiet a few ADC guys also use it and the ones that don't proably rely more on the plane and snares.

Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:15 pm
by lyonch
I think there is a little more to it than taking a rabbit and making him squeal and recording and calling it the real thing. Every rabbit, coyote, bird, etc. etc. has a slightly different sound to them just like humans do. So i highly doubt that a coyote is going to say hey thats the real thing i am going to come now!! As far as it being louder well it might get you one or two extra dogs on the season because of it, but i know i could buy/make a shitload of snares for 800 bucks and kill more coyotes with those snares than a WT will!! If you think it is a great tool than more power to you but i just don't see it as being a necessity. Just my 2 cents on the topic.
Re: pup in destress
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:19 pm
by Coyotehunter
after sept. it is a coyote. we aint't talk'n dogs here. The sound a milk tooth pup makes in distress is drastically different then anything you will here in the fall and winter out of the same pup. MOST of the sounds I have heard over the years that are being sold are not what they say they are. period. I have had several companies try to buy sounds from me, I am just here to tell you they are out to make a buck and would buy most anything and believe it is what ever you tell them. Slap a sticker on it and send it out the door. Most of these guys do not hunt and spend little to know time in the field. The stuff I here in real life situations rarely sounds like the tapes and digital sounds I have purchased over the years. You may hear the difference between individual coyotes but there is going to be little to no difference because one is 8 months and the other is 10 months. Now 6 weeks and 8 months there is a big difference. Does it make much difference if you are calling in any ol'coyote in the dead of winter? probably not. I would not use a coyote distress on a digital call to call in a coyote in the fur months anyways but on spring and summer work I will stick to the milk tooth pup distress and leave the digital coyote distress at home.