ND Coyote Bounty - Senate Bill No. 2224 Defeated

[lyonch]

I just put up some comments on that topic over for a little support BBJ. I just can not imagine how some of their thought process's even work. Thanks for standing up for what most of us coyote hunters feel the end result of this topic would be

[lyonch]

I just went back over there and my post got lost in cyber space somehow It was long and took me a while to type, but it looks like Tim Sandstrom over there finally got the big picture when one of his (suppose to be with him) sources proved him wrong with a couple small facts I hope his attitude changes

[shooter93]

Be like cali bear season here the quota is met the season is closed, but the bear numbers are growning, or the lion season we have, there is none, next they will have a varmite stamp, then tags,then protect them. Last year the state flew on the nv cali boarder and killed 264 coyotes in one morning, he told me that is around average every year for the area, if you kill 75% of the coyotes in a area the next year they will be back 100% they wont fly this year because of the buget, the gov trapper is layed off and we cant use snares or leg hold traps only live traps and dont work very good for coyotes but great for cats. i like nv system need no lic for coyotes or jackrabbits, and 125 for a lion tag, and ravens are shot to, the game bird population went up 70 to 80%, i see if pasted $100 for bounty and then next sell tags to show a profite, that is gov for you.

[Jamie Nelms]

I'm from Oklahoma and I dont think there is a bounty on yotes here.....the local farmers used to pay us to hunt the yotes. But then the hunting greed came and they all leased out the farms for deer and such and stopped all of the coyote hunting. The lease owners dont hunt yotes so the packs have grown back are now a pain again.......I think the only way a bounty will work is state wide....to stop the killing next county and cashing in. But if the famers, ranchers, and dairy folk would just befriend the hunters like the good o'll days then it would get better......

[bucksnbears]

. But if the famers, ranchers, and dairy folk would just befriend the hunters like the good o'll days then it would get better......

the big buck (deer) craze has ruined alot of hunter oppertunity thats for sure

[LeviM]

I was just watching the news the other day and this bill was brought up. It must have some steam behind it, if the media is reporting it.

[shooter93]

im pretty luck here i have alot of ranches to hunt for coyotes, and plus i have neveda only 25 miles away 100s of miles that you may not see anyone for days once chucker season is done

[Jeck]

Well, the bill failed. I am surprised it made it out of the committee. I can't believe 16 senators voted for it considering how strongly it was opposed by the ND Game and Fish.

All the snowmobilers can put away their shotguns and sleds!


No $100 bounty for shooting a coyote in North Dakota
Story Discussion The Associated Press | Posted: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 11:15 pm | (0) Comments

North Dakota hunters won't be getting a $100 bounty for shooting a coyote.

Coyotes are causing more expensive problems in western North Dakota because cattle and lamb prices are good. Some North Dakota senators say a possible solution is to pay hunters $100 for each coyote they shoot, up to a maximum of 2,000 coyotes statewide.

Opponents of the measure say it would take $200,000 away from a program that uses professional hunters to control coyote numbers.

Bowman Sen. Bill Bowman says that approach isn't working, because coyotes are getting more numerous.

The bounty bill failed in the North Dakota Senate on Tuesday, 30-16. The bill is SB2224.

[lyonch]

Thanks for the good news Jeck!! That was a good way to start my morning out

[bucksnbears]

. kinda funny, all the ranchers that let me hunt were all for the bill and asked me to call and support it. of course i had to fib abit and tell em i would

[Skinny Indian]

People are worried about where their tax dollars are going, and yet no one raises an eye to hiring professional hunters to control a population, and refuse to allow someone to hunt the very same animals on their land for free. The same ranchers and farmers who loose animals to predators are the ones restricting their land from predator hunters. I understand that you don't want just anyone on your property with a gun, but if they support a bounty, then why not let more people hunt their land free? At least during the off seasons for deer. I don't know about elsewhere but you can shoot a deer one day and have it's buddies come back the next here. Post deer season coyote hunting wouldn't affect the deer that I would know of. Hell I target practice in the same woods that I have harvested Opossum in, spotted PLENTY of squirrel and raccoon, foxes, deer and turkey in, either animal or signs. And I am not on a particularly large plot. Hell, if the boar will just cross the street I'll be happy! Well that and making night hunting of coyote legal in NC, then I'll be happy.

[Jeck]

Skinny Indian,

Access isn't really a problem. All you have to do is ask around here. Most guys won't turn you down.

Also, the state/feds in North Dakota are out of funds this year for ADC work. So, there won't be any more paid professionals this year. I am not sure when their budget year starts over. I think it might be July. Coyotehunter or someone else may know better. I am also not entirely sure what % of the cost of ADC work is put up by each agency (state and feds).

Nobody raises an eye to tax dollars going to the professionals because it is a hell of alot better use of tax money for controling predators than paying a few people for coyotes they probably already killed before the bounty was in place (frozen in their shed - waiting to take the fur buyer)... or even out of state coyotes... etc. There would be a lot of illegal/unethical activities taking place for people wanting that $100 payday. Also, I think $200,000 budgeted for the Professionals would end up with alot more coyotes killed... just my guess.

By the way, I was talking to the Terry Steinwand, ND Game and Fish Director and the Randy Kreil, Chief of the WIldlife Division last week, and it was their understanding that the $200,000 was per biennium. So, that means only 1,000 coyotes ($100,000) per year would get a paid bounty. Not even a tiny drop in the bucket..... when you consider the overall number of coyotes harvested in the state.

Also, I will tell you that they were very strongly opposed to the bounty.

[lyonch]

I think xdeano would be the one to shed a little light on what the state pays and what the feds pay for damage control. I hope these guys dont lose their job because of funding ! They don't get paid squat for what they do anyhow The state of north dakota is in such a huge boom right now on the western portion of it!! I wish they could take a real small percentage of that and get the ADC program where it should be!!

[Skinny Indian]

Skinny Indian,

Access isn't really a problem. All you have to do is ask around here. Most guys won't turn you down.

Also, the state/feds in North Dakota are out of funds this year for ADC work. So, there won't be any more paid professionals this year. I am not sure when their budget year starts over. I think it might be July. Coyotehunter or someone else may know better. I am also not entirely sure what % of the cost of ADC work is put up by each agency (state and feds).

Nobody raises an eye to tax dollars going to the professionals because it is a hell of alot better use of tax money for controling predators than paying a few people for coyotes they probably already killed before the bounty was in place (frozen in their shed - waiting to take the fur buyer)... or even out of state coyotes... etc. There would be a lot of illegal/unethical activities taking place for people wanting that $100 payday. Also, I think $200,000 budgeted for the Professionals would end up with alot more coyotes killed... just my guess.

By the way, I was talking to the Terry Steinwand, ND Game and Fish Director and the Randy Kreil, Chief of the WIldlife Division last week, and it was their understanding that the $200,000 was per biennium. So, that means only 1,000 coyotes ($100,000) per year would get a paid bounty. Not even a tiny drop in the bucket..... when you consider the overall number of coyotes harvested in the state.

Also, I will tell you that they were very strongly opposed to the bounty.

I see what you're saying, but my point was that why pay people to do it when there are many perfectly willing to do it for free? And around here access can be a pain at times. I'm gonna start asking the chicken farmers soon though, but they have a bad track record.

[Coyotehunter]

no one is loosing their jobs in ND, that money comes up every year. Been that way for ever. they are always just 13 month contracts.