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				What is this track from?
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:35 am
				by Fallguy
				My uncle took this cast of a track a few years ago on a prairie road by his farm.  Sorry if the pictures aren't the best.  And I don't have the exact measurements of the print.
The "L" made by my hand has the following dimensions:
From the crook in the "L" it is 5 inches to to top of my index finger.  From the same point it is 3 inches to the end of my thumb.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:16 am
				by Prairie Ghost
				Could be a long tail but it is tough to tell with the pics
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:20 pm
				by Coyotehunter
				I tell you what, it looks like a bear track to me, front pad maybe. What part of the state?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:28 pm
				by Fallguy
				It was found between Heaton and Cathay, ND.  If you don't know where that is it is in the Central part of ND, about 20 miles west of Carrington.  
I know it isn't the best picture.  When I was back there for deer hunting I quick snapped a photo of it on the way out.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:12 pm
				by Prairie Ghost
				Is there claws visible infront of the toes?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:28 pm
				by Fallguy
				I looked at that.  I know that if it's a cat there will be no claw marks seen.  I couldn't make any out from what I saw.  I am not sure what he used to make the cast or if it is the right stuff to use.  I am however going back there over Christmas and I will look at it again, get some measurements, take some better pictures, and look at the claw situation.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:15 pm
				by Coyotehunter
				I see Bear tracks all the time around my place. You do not always see claw marks with bear tracks. It just depends on how soft of mud you have. I have bears right behind the house and I can find tracks almost any day of the week.  The more I look at the casting it looks like a bear track.  Across the front pad anything over 5" would be considered a big bear. 3.5" - 4.5" would be a typical size bear maybe 150lb to about 250 lb. When I lived in Buxton North Dakota there was a bear spotted several times just East of town. I have a friend who lived up by Bottineu, ND and he had pics of a couple of bears that the locals farmers had given him.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:47 pm
				by Fallguy
				I will have to give my uncle a call one of these nights and see if he has heard of any bear sightings around the time he made the cast.  I never expected someone to say it could belong to a bear!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:36 am
				by Fallguy
				I talked to my uncle last night.  The track was found in soft mud a few years ago.  The reason he took the cast of it was he was suprised as there were NO claw marks to be found at all.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:13 am
				by Coyotehunter
				Well, I sent your pictures off to a biologist, Sue Mansfield that I know that is suppose to be an expert on tracks and sign. I will let you know what I find out.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:33 am
				by Fallguy
				I will pretty dumb if it turns out to be a big dog or something.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:24 am
				by Coyotehunter
				Hi Jamie -
This looks like a cougar track to me.  A bear's palm pad is large in comparison to its toe pads, and the toes form a nice arc over the palm pad.  A bear's palm pad is also asymmetrical -- with the wider part being towards the outside.  The slightly tear-drop shape of the toe pads in your track picture is also cat-like.
Below is a set of bear tracks frozen in ice -- the front left is the top one, rear left is the lower one.  Notice the kidney-shaped palm pad on the front foot -- with the narrow part towards the inside.  The small inner toe did not register so it appears to have only 4 toes -- same for the rear track.  Notice the gentle arc formed by the toes over the pad.
Hope this helps.
Sue

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:24 am
				by Fallguy
				That's pretty sweet.  Thanks for looking into that Jamie.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:38 am
				by Coyotehunter
				you bet, it is cool figuring that stuff out.